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		<title>By: Ominyx</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the graphs and probabilities. This may be a necro type comment, but we&#039;re still in the Theros block and I&#039;m brand new to MTGO so I&#039;m sponging as much info as I can in my free time at work :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the graphs and probabilities. This may be a necro type comment, but we&#8217;re still in the Theros block and I&#8217;m brand new to MTGO so I&#8217;m sponging as much info as I can in my free time at work <img src="http://www.mtgoacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: kezzerdrix</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you seriously ignore my questions? Extremely unprofessional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you seriously ignore my questions? Extremely unprofessional.</p>
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		<title>By: neuhier</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, thanks for all that comments!

@NoTeef: You are very right. For some reason I thought to complicated and I am so used to solve problems like that by simulation. :-)

@premiersoupir: Indeed this episode inspired me to write this article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for all that comments!</p>
<p>@NoTeef: You are very right. For some reason I thought to complicated and I am so used to solve problems like that by simulation. <img src="http://www.mtgoacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>@premiersoupir: Indeed this episode inspired me to write this article!</p>
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		<title>By: premiersoupir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[premiersoupir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating analysis -- thanks very much! I&#039;m about as far from being a statistician as possible, but I rather love consuming this sort of information when it&#039;s produced by people such as yourself who not only understand it but who are able to render it readily digestible to people like me. Bravo! I thoroughly enjoyed this article, and I eagerly await its sequel.

By the by, here&#039;s a plug for MTGO Academy contributor Marshall Sutcliffe&#039;s podcast. In an episode from a few months ago, Marshall&#039;s co-host, Brian Wong, does a fine job treating probabilities and the question of splashing cards. How to optimize colored source count for a one card splash, two card splash, etc.? http://lrcast.com/limited-resources-189-mana-bases/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating analysis &#8212; thanks very much! I&#8217;m about as far from being a statistician as possible, but I rather love consuming this sort of information when it&#8217;s produced by people such as yourself who not only understand it but who are able to render it readily digestible to people like me. Bravo! I thoroughly enjoyed this article, and I eagerly await its sequel.</p>
<p>By the by, here&#8217;s a plug for MTGO Academy contributor Marshall Sutcliffe&#8217;s podcast. In an episode from a few months ago, Marshall&#8217;s co-host, Brian Wong, does a fine job treating probabilities and the question of splashing cards. How to optimize colored source count for a one card splash, two card splash, etc.? <a href="http://lrcast.com/limited-resources-189-mana-bases/" rel="nofollow">http://lrcast.com/limited-resources-189-mana-bases/</a></p>
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		<title>By: NoTeef</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!  It&#039;s great to read about probability and simulations for magic games.  I just can&#039;t get enough.

I have one comment about the first graph.  I think that graph can also be generated from the hypergeometric distribution.  Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong (I&#039;m much better at being wrong than at probability).

Here&#039;s what I was thinking.  A player wants 3 lands by turn 3.  If on the play, the player gets two draws meaning we can just look at the probability of drawing three lands in a &quot;starting hand&quot; of 9 cards.  That means the probability of drawing 3 lands (and thereby playing 3 lands) is ncoosek(L,3)*nchoosek(40-L, S+D-3)/nchoosek(40,S+T), where L is the number of lands in the deck, S is the number of cards in a starting hand (7), and D is the number of draws (2). For L=16, this comes out to be  25.6%.  To obtain the final result, we have to multiply this result by the probability that the player draws a nonland card next, which, for these numbers, is 18/31.

To completely generalize with a bunch of confusing letters, the probability of playing exactly X lands in a row (i.e. X lands by turn X) is : 

nchoosek(L,K)*nchoosek(C-L,S-1)/nchoosek(C,X+S-1)*(C-L-S+1)/(C-X-S+1)

where L is the number of lands in the deck, C is the number of cards in the deck, and S is the size of the starting hand.  This might be able to be further simplified... (with logic or with identities).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  It&#8217;s great to read about probability and simulations for magic games.  I just can&#8217;t get enough.</p>
<p>I have one comment about the first graph.  I think that graph can also be generated from the hypergeometric distribution.  Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong (I&#8217;m much better at being wrong than at probability).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I was thinking.  A player wants 3 lands by turn 3.  If on the play, the player gets two draws meaning we can just look at the probability of drawing three lands in a &#8220;starting hand&#8221; of 9 cards.  That means the probability of drawing 3 lands (and thereby playing 3 lands) is ncoosek(L,3)*nchoosek(40-L, S+D-3)/nchoosek(40,S+T), where L is the number of lands in the deck, S is the number of cards in a starting hand (7), and D is the number of draws (2). For L=16, this comes out to be  25.6%.  To obtain the final result, we have to multiply this result by the probability that the player draws a nonland card next, which, for these numbers, is 18/31.</p>
<p>To completely generalize with a bunch of confusing letters, the probability of playing exactly X lands in a row (i.e. X lands by turn X) is : </p>
<p>nchoosek(L,K)*nchoosek(C-L,S-1)/nchoosek(C,X+S-1)*(C-L-S+1)/(C-X-S+1)</p>
<p>where L is the number of lands in the deck, C is the number of cards in the deck, and S is the size of the starting hand.  This might be able to be further simplified&#8230; (with logic or with identities).</p>
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		<title>By: kezzerdrix</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have mana sinks you are not flooding. The definition of flooding is &quot;Having noticeably more mana than ways of using it,&quot; not &quot;having lots of mana and things to do with it&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have mana sinks you are not flooding. The definition of flooding is &#8220;Having noticeably more mana than ways of using it,&#8221; not &#8220;having lots of mana and things to do with it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pmirick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not if you have things to sink your mana Into. Just because you flood does not mean you loose. That normally is the opposite when you are short on mana.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if you have things to sink your mana Into. Just because you flood does not mean you loose. That normally is the opposite when you are short on mana.</p>
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