Comments on: Standard Spike: Pauper DE with UR Post

By: Gnarlesbury

Gnarlesbury — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 09:35:52 +0000

The gates are strictly better than karoos because of the extreme time walk when they are targeted by opponents early game. Not to mention the awkward all karoo draw mulligans.

They may just be additions to expans/wilds, but they don’t pull lands from your deck which may be a desired effect early game. This seems good whether it be aggro midrange or control…

Earlier access to more colors with less early game impact seems good to me. I could be wrong…

By: Eluvial

Eluvial — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:10:13 +0000

Wizards has actively worked against Pauper as a legitimate format. Most notably, their recent decision to cut Daily events in half. A very strange decision with Pauper being second in popularity only to Standard at the time. I don’t think we will see bannings because Grapeshot, Cloudpost, Invigorate, have been a problem for literally years and nothing has been done. Why now, if they have decided to reduce events rather than promote the format.

By: _ShipItHolla

_ShipItHolla — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:21:27 +0000

A few thoughts,

Rolling Thunder being immune to removal is not a big issue for this deck. It can still be countered in applicable matchups and more importantly, this deck usually is capable of locking your opponent out if it needs to or even just saving the Crusher repeatedly. That says to me that I’d rather have the one that is better elsewhere, which I think is Crusher.

I might try out something else sometime. This format is mostly decks that just try to attack for 20 or 10 as fast as possible (or deal 20 with a Grapeshot). I’m not particularly fond of either of those strategies so I’ll have to go digging for something else that I like.

I think the Gates might be too slow for this format. UR Post is poised to get the most advantage out of a Gate, but it already plays 4 taplands and can’t afford to be too slow. There’s no doubt I’ll add some to the deck but Idk how impactful they’ll really be in a format this fast (Evolving Wilds argument also applies).

I think that, depending on Wizards’ outlook on the format, we could see more bannings in the near future. Invigorate, Cloudpost, and Grapeshot could all be considered IMO, but as I said, it just depends on their outlook on the format.

By: TeenieBopper

TeenieBopper — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:06:09 +0000

I doubt the Ravnica gates will have a huge impact on Pauper. The format already has Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, and the Karoo lands. The only competative three color deck is Familiar Storm. The gates might see play in post variants as a replacement to the fetches, but they aren’t fast enough to allow three color decks to compete with Goblins, Infect, and non infect Mono-G, (and possibly the new War Falcon WW variants), not to mention Storm.

By: Tyler

Tyler — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:26:51 +0000

Would love to see you play this deck in another daily where you don’t hit the mirror match so often. In particular, I’d like to see/hear your thoughts on the matchup with Storm-themed decks. I’ve noticed the UR Goblin Storm seems to be quite effective in the dailies…

By: Gnarlesbury

Gnarlesbury — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 08:11:24 +0000

Super excited for the gate lands! The gates will certainly shake things up and make more 2 and 3 color decks viable. These lands will be a big boost toward this great format’s viability!

By: PlanetWalls

PlanetWalls — Wed, 05 Sep 2012 01:07:13 +0000

By the way, Gnarlesbury, you’re in luck. The Pauper meta will certainly change (not to exclude Post variants) to include a number of 3-color decks, I think, now that there will be Gates in RtRavnica.