Comments on: Theros Visual Spoiler (Complete)

By: Rez

Rez — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:59:07 +0000

@random: There’s the article I’m looking for! Thanks! Okay, so they do get a double life as an aura, then a creature if you bestow. Not too bad. Kind of in the vein of undying…

By: random

random — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:56:02 +0000

@Rez: The Hydra comes as a 0/0 and will be put into graveyard! The Satyr looses target, but becomes a creature. If you pay the bestow-cost you will always get at least a creature, only if your opponent counters the Spell you will get nothing.
I think you should read the offical mechanics guide of theros: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/therosmechanics
They explain everything! Wizards will make also make a faq for theros, with answer to most of the obvious question.

By: Ergoogre

Ergoogre — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 04:53:35 +0000

Was wondering the same thing, and based on what i read here http://www.gatheringmagic.com/carlos-gutierrez-news-previews-08282013-theros-mechanics-overview/
I think it would happens like this;
1You pay 3GG to cast the Satyr with bestow
2 Your opponent removes the target with an instance or ability (blink or destroy both mess with targets on the stack so same difference)
3 The aura doesn’t have a valid target
4 The enchantment is now a creature
5 You just paid 5 for a 3 mana creature, but technically did not get 2 for one’d.

The rules update will hopefully make things more clear, but I’m still not sure if a bestowed aura still a creature. Does it die to doomblade as an aura enchantment creature? Shock? Because that just seems silly to me. If not it may just be time to mainboard naturalize or something like it at the pre-release.

By: Maestro

Maestro — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:57:48 +0000

Part of the rules text for Bestow (on the cards, anyway) says that the card with Bestow “becomes a creature again if it’s not attached to a creature.” I don’t know if this means it has to be attached to a creature to begin, or not.

By: Rez

Rez — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:39:20 +0000

Rules question: If a have a creature with Bestow, like Boon Satyr. And I pay the 3GG and use it as an +4/+2 aura on my Mistcutter Hydra (who’s say a 3/3, having paid 3G for him the previous turn.) My opponent has a Triad of Fates, drops a fate counter on the Hydra, then pays W to blink it. What happens?

Does the Hydra Blink, come back with 0 +1/+1 counters and die?
What happens to the Satyr? It no longer has a valid target, so does it go to the graveyard? Or does the Satyr, having no creature to attach to, become a creature on it’s own?

What if the Hydra is just destroyed? Does the Satyr go with it? Or does the Satyr hit the board as a creature at that point?

Bestow look interesting, but I want to know the rulings before I decide how highly I draft it.

By: Rez

Rez — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:11:13 +0000

In fact, curving Favored Hoplite into Ordeal of Heliod looks sound in draft with both being uncommon. That’s a turn two 3/4 with damage prevention. Who goes 4/5 on 3 then 5/6 on four with no other investment. With Phalanx Leader and Wingsteed Rider both uncommon and common, those pants fit a lot of favorable targets.

I would think the ordeals will tend to go late as well, especially one that’s life gain.

By: Rez

Rez — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:40:13 +0000

You look at the Firedrinker as aggressive, but then you have Soldier of the Pantheon holding down the Savannah Lion spot in white with a benefit instead of a drawback at the same rarity. Firedrinker looks like a common, but is set at rare… I think Johnny Combo has hidden something in this set for that Satyr to be friends with.