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	<title>Comments on: Unlocking the Vault #3: A Classic Primer for Workshop Decks</title>
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		<title>By: enderfall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like the community has chosen G/W Hate. Look for that in my next primer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the community has chosen G/W Hate. Look for that in my next primer!</p>
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		<title>By: enderfall</title>
		<link>http://www.mtgoacademy.com/unlocking-the-vault-3-a-classic-primer-for-workshop-decks/comment-page-1/#comment-5263</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks in3d, as ashamed as I am to say it I had forgot about that useful tool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks in3d, as ashamed as I am to say it I had forgot about that useful tool.</p>
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		<title>By: in3d</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[in3d]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enderfall - this site itself has an AWESOME decktech tool, with advanced search capabilities.

http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/AdvancedSearch.aspx

Classic is being implemented as a search format as we speak, but here a trick I learned:  put classic in the Tournament Information Event Name box and you can narrow it down that way.

http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/advancedSearchResults.aspx?mode=mtgo&amp;event=classic&amp;mc=tez

Hope this helps!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enderfall &#8211; this site itself has an AWESOME decktech tool, with advanced search capabilities.</p>
<p><a href="http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/AdvancedSearch.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/AdvancedSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>Classic is being implemented as a search format as we speak, but here a trick I learned:  put classic in the Tournament Information Event Name box and you can narrow it down that way.</p>
<p><a href="http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/advancedSearchResults.aspx?mode=mtgo&#038;event=classic&#038;mc=tez" rel="nofollow">http://decks.mtgoacademy.com/advancedSearchResults.aspx?mode=mtgo&#038;event=classic&#038;mc=tez</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisKool</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have secretly been buying classic decks. You can bet I was bummed when I realized the [card]Homeward Path[/card] didn&#039;t screw over oath--stupid ownership token update in m10!

I will read over this and tweak my shop decks :]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have secretly been buying classic decks. You can bet I was bummed when I realized the <a href="http://www.mtgoacademy.com/wp-content/plugins/mtgo-wp-mtg-helper/mtg_helper_cardfinder.php?find=Homeward+Path&width=223&height=310" class="jTip" name="Homeward Path">Homeward Path</a> didn&#8217;t screw over oath&#8211;stupid ownership token update in m10!</p>
<p>I will read over this and tweak my shop decks :]<img src='http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Homeward Path&options=' style='display:none;width:1px;height:1px;' /></p>
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		<title>By: enderfall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[enderfall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah-ha. CQ doesn&#039;t have the July DE&#039;s up and you had not published the list on YSO. Thanks for the link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah-ha. CQ doesn&#8217;t have the July DE&#8217;s up and you had not published the list on YSO. Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hammer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2562967

4-0 tezzerator]]></description>
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<p>4-0 tezzerator</p>
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		<title>By: enderfall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hammer, which deck went 4-0 with Planeswalker control? I checked the archives on CQ and couldn&#039;t find anything, but maybe I missed it. I will certainly consider a dual Jace/Tezz primer if Jacerator ends up winning.

MMogg, in my testing, Forgemaster is a little slow as in most cases it takes two full turns to reap his rewards (the exception being tutoring up the Vault Key combo, but that requires having on piece already in hand or in play). You need a commanding board presence in order for him to stick since he has a huge target on him before you can untap with him. Lightning Greaves would help in that regard, but then you are watering down your deck with equipment that has little value without the Forgemaster. My feeling is that if you have a commanding board presence then you shouldn&#039;t be waiting a full turn to get some value of of a card when dropping Karn, or Precursor Golem (both sharing the 5 CC slot) offer up more immediate rewards.

I also agree with your Wurmcoil vs Hellkite discussion to some extent. Hellkite has evasion and that is something that can not be discounted, especially when playing Fish decks packing Trygon Predator and the mirror match. I typically use a split of Hellkite and Wurmcoil in my 75.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hammer, which deck went 4-0 with Planeswalker control? I checked the archives on CQ and couldn&#8217;t find anything, but maybe I missed it. I will certainly consider a dual Jace/Tezz primer if Jacerator ends up winning.</p>
<p>MMogg, in my testing, Forgemaster is a little slow as in most cases it takes two full turns to reap his rewards (the exception being tutoring up the Vault Key combo, but that requires having on piece already in hand or in play). You need a commanding board presence in order for him to stick since he has a huge target on him before you can untap with him. Lightning Greaves would help in that regard, but then you are watering down your deck with equipment that has little value without the Forgemaster. My feeling is that if you have a commanding board presence then you shouldn&#8217;t be waiting a full turn to get some value of of a card when dropping Karn, or Precursor Golem (both sharing the 5 CC slot) offer up more immediate rewards.</p>
<p>I also agree with your Wurmcoil vs Hellkite discussion to some extent. Hellkite has evasion and that is something that can not be discounted, especially when playing Fish decks packing Trygon Predator and the mirror match. I typically use a split of Hellkite and Wurmcoil in my 75.</p>
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