Limited Resources: KTK Draft #7

“My advantage is that I don’t value signals that much” – Salman Khan




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  1. In Match 2, Game 1, I strongly disagreed with Throttling the Sattlebrute and blocking with the Watcher. Not only does it leave you open for a 2-for-1 if he had Feat, but also it just grows his Swarm of Bloodflies. The Sattlebrute wasn’t an issue, since you had a big Tuskguard Captain. I was hoping you would just Throttle the Swarm instead. You’ve really got to kill Swarm of Bloodflies on sight whenever you can. Otherwise it starts getting out of hand, which is exactly what happened.

  2. M3G1 – Just dont choose pro green with the Feat. The Bond-Kin straight up beats the Loxodon because of the counter – 8/7 vs 6/7 – and you swing for lethal that turn.

    Love your videos!

  3. What Jojos Monkey said.
    I was screaming at the screen.
    Next time think about your plays a bit more not just laugh at your stupidity.

  4. Yeah, I thought the same about the Loxodon, you got so focused on not being able to give pro-green that you forgot you’d have eaten his creatures !

    Good thing it didn’t have any impact.
    Also, lamest final game in finals i’ve ever seen with both sides flooding xD

    And you made my heart sad when you didn’t go for the Secret plans deck when receiving it pick 2, but I could also quite understand, and the fact that you won against that very deck was probably reason enough to prove your call right!

  5. Well it just shows how we all get locked in on the primary mode of most Magic cards. With Feat the main thing people focus on is the protection from color versus the +1+1 counter – it always still surprises me when people play it on their morph to take out my morph – I always start to say to myself “that doesn’t work” forgetting about the +1+1 counter.

    I make many plays with certain cards that has me focusing in on their main modes of play. I wish there was some type of trick to get me out of the main way of thinking about certain cards and keep myself open to all options at all times. Of course I am a slow player anyway, so when I try to play especially slow to keep myself open, I just end up timing myself out anyway.

    He won the games anyway in that game. It was the Round 2 play that I disagreed with the most. I always kill the Flies when I get a chance, and I usually main phase my removal when they are tapped out of their white – Feat is just too devastating to your limited removal!

  6. M1G2, you towards the end, you didn’t consider flipping your Loxodon up EoT instead of making another warrior with Herald. That would have let you cast Feat on the Loxodon and gotten in for exact lethal.

  7. Last game of the draft, what happened is probably that the opponent planned to turn his mystic face up to trade with your heir of the wild, but misclicked.

  8. Great draft! Regarding your mana fixing, I would have added a Plain and taken away a Swamp. You counted the Krumar Bond-Kin as BB and you could actually count it as a single B because of it’s morph cost. This way you can increase your chances of getting an aggressive start with your white turn 1 and turn 2 drops without losing the ability to cast the Bond-Kin.

  9. Hi Marshall,

    I believe your deck was filled with premium cards. Just because a creature is 1 color doesn’t mean it is not good…. heir of the beat down, flayer of life, murderous win, feat of assistance, take up value, watcher of life boost, all extremely high picks that also are very easy to cast. I think the mono colored uncommons + cheifs, are the key to this format….. think about the uncommon slot a bit in khans… hordeling outburst, cut, burnaway, ad infinitum . the deck was teir 1 if it had 2 more lands.
    It is proven that humans are bad at recreating randomized streaking in the variance of probability in there imaginations. So, when we see a mono colored card with slight downside to a gold card, we may assume it is intrinsically hard to cast the gold card, but we rarely see the positive value of how good casting heir of the wilds, into alpine grizzly, into bear punch is. The last example may seem unreal but it is only casting a G uncommon into two G commons. If this were a core set you would see a green mage make that line many times over a set run.

  10. p. s. I loved your drafting and thought the deck turned out awesome. I can only think of 3 cards that you didn’t pick up that could of made the deck better: seeker of the way, sattlbute, and incremental growth.

  11. “Next time think about your plays a bit more not just laugh at your stupidity.”

    QFT! Quoted For Muthafuckin Truth!

    from Limited Resources official website: (http://lrcast.com/)

    “Limited Resources is a weekly podcast dedicated to improving your skill at Magic: The Gathering, with an emphasis on Limited play.”

    REALLY, Marshall? You’re “dedicated” to improving my skill at Magic: The Gathering? Why don’t you dedicate yourself to thinking through your plays first! THEN maybe I can learn something from you. Total waste of time and goes against your mission statement when you derp ahead full-retard.

  12. “please read on November 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM said:
    Hi Marshall,

    I believe your deck was filled with premium cards. Just because a creature is 1 color doesn’t mean it is not good…. heir of the beat down, flayer of life, murderous win, feat of assistance, take up value, watcher of life boost, all extremely high picks that also are very easy to cast. I think the mono colored uncommons + cheifs, are the key to this format….. think about the uncommon slot a bit in khans… hordeling outburst, cut, burnaway, ad infinitum . the deck was teir 1 if it had 2 more lands.
    It is proven that humans are bad at recreating randomized streaking in the variance of probability in there imaginations. So, when we see a mono colored card with slight downside to a gold card, we may assume it is intrinsically hard to cast the gold card, but we rarely see the positive value of how good casting heir of the wilds, into alpine grizzly, into bear punch is. The last example may seem unreal but it is only casting a G uncommon into two G commons. If this were a core set you would see a green mage make that line many times over a set run.”

    -QFT

  13. Love the videos. The M3G1 Feat thing was real easy to see IN HIND SIGHT ON VIDEO, but you still won without it. That’s why we watch these vids, to see a great player win in spite of mistakes. That’s the hallmark of a good player.

  14. Major misplay on the second-to-last turn of M1G2. Your opponent had tapped down to only three mana, which meant that they could only regenerate one Warden. Your Krumar and Loxodon both attacked through the wall and morph, so you had a free attack with both – they would have had to chump with one of their creatures or take some damage, either of which would have probably lost them the game on the next turn (especially if you could have flipped up the Loxodon, giving you a 7-power unblockable attacker with Feat). There are lines your opponent could have taken that would have still resulted in them winning the game, but the attack was pretty much free, and would have given you numerous outs to win if they didn’t block perfectly.

  15. @rite

    But if Feat would resolve, it would make Savage Punch not happening because it need to target Krumar.

  16. “REALLY, Marshall? You’re “dedicated” to improving my skill at Magic: The Gathering? Why don’t you dedicate yourself to thinking through your plays first! THEN maybe I can learn something from you. Total waste of time and goes against your mission statement when you derp ahead full-retard.”

    I am such a TROLL I like to us CAPS to emphasise my POINTS!

    (If Marshall’s free video content isn’t teaching you anything, or entertaining you: stop watching. Go troll someone else.)

  17. @Sam Roads

    The point is, if Marshall’s videos are neither elucidating or entertaining, why even make them?
    He could either be more carefree with his drafting and play to make the videos more wacky like the LRR and Windmill Slam draft videos or be more diligent to make them more educational and strategic (with lots more talking out the plays) like the Simon Says draft videos.
    Where they are now is frustrating for viewers who want to learn and be engaged in the intricacies of the format and boring for the viewers who want watch a draft for fun. At the very least, it’s time that could be better spent improving the Limited Resources podcast.
    I feel that, if people don’t like the videos, they should say something rather then just letting MTGO Academy be clogged up with content they can’t stand and I can definitely understand the people that are angry that they invested a good hour into some videos just to see a careless mistake.

  18. @Faust @rite
    I think some of you forget that you learn just as much from misplays as you do from correct plays. In fact, if someone always played correctly you would not be able to identify that to the same degree as the misplay. You contradict yourselves when saying it was a waste of time watching because you can’t possibly be watching to see marshall win or win the right way stp. You learn from the interactions on screen wheter they are voluntarily correct or not, just like marshall does. Personally I like the mix of entertainment and seriousness.

  19. I’d like to be pointed to these mystical robot players who never make a mistake, ever.

    Joking aside, you guys who are complaining about Marshall know that he doesn’t pick and choose which drafts he puts on the website, right? Whichever one he records – assuming no technical problems force him to do a retake – is the one that we see. The same is true of Simon Goertzen. Even someone as strategically-minded and thoughtful as him has made mistakes during play.

    Acting as though you’ve been slighted by these free content providers for not being MTG gods makes you look childish, at best.

  20. @Boop Doge @Emisun

    Marshall has admitted in a previous video that he picks and chooses which videos he puts up. He doesn’t just post the first one he records. He does this in order to put up ones that have a lot of play in them, ideally ones were he makes it to round 3. So you are disproportionately likely to watch draft videos where Marshall wins. If you’re going to be watching him win either way, I’d prefer to watch him win as cleanly as possible.
    That being said, I don’t ask that the people play with no misplays. LSV is as close as you get to the mystical robot and he does make mistakes in his play. The difference is that players like him and Simon make mostly strategic misplays (e.g. not playing around a certain card in the format, not making the best decision on blockers). Furthermore, these players then examine in the videos, out loud with the viewer, how and why they made the misplay and what line should have been taken.
    Investing an hour and a half of time into videos is not worthwhile when the only lessons to be learned from the careless mistakes are “You should read your cards and know what they do” from Round 3 or “You should actually do the combat math” from Round 1.

  21. @Faust
    Obviously then, that you don’t need to learn from the mistakes that Marshall might make but people are of different skill levels and some might find his videos useful.

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