Eternal Conflict – Learning the Hard Way

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  1. Yup – alas. That bug is pretty well known, and just common enough to be a real menace without making it impossible to play. It can happen in all games, casual, practice, 2-man, draft, PE, etc. I’m not sure why but 9 times out of ten it seems to my opponent that is bugging rather than me, so maybe connection rate/server load has something to do with it.

    My rule of thumb (especially in a tourney) is after 3-5 minutes of no actions I will ask if my opponent is “still there?”. Even if I don’t get the usual “I’m waiting on you” response (a sure sign that one of us is bugged and we should both disconnect) I usually do a quick log off/log on anyway because some people (especially if faced with a bad matchup/board position) will try and take the 50% odds that the opponent is bugged and not respond to queries.

    Sorry to hear that the bug cost you your T8!

  2. It’s really a shame. We where thinking about a tool that pings the server to check for connectivity but after the “Millibot” incident I keep my fingers away from such things. We might get banned for violating the CoC….

  3. The “still there?” after 3-5 minutes rule sounds like a solid one, and I’ll definitely be using that one in the future. Such a bummer that we have to deal with this kind of stuff!

  4. It is a bummer – but really, for the convenience of playing MTG from my living room at any hour of the day or night I would (and have! *shudders* …remembering the dark days of super lag) put up with more. Still, hopefully this will get fixed sooner rather than later.

  5. That’s really disappointing that you were dropped out of the top 8. I don’t think that should have happened.

    Imagine a paper tournament with 5 rounds of swiss and a top 8 afterward. You’ve gone 4-0 and you’re part way through the last round when your cell phone rings. It’s an emergency, and you run out of the building like it’s on fire. The head judge will be confused, but he’ll probably give a concession (because the game started, it should affect your rating) and drop you from the event (because you’re gone).

    Now here’s the thing. You still have 4 * 3 = 12 match points. You’re a lock for the top 8 and prizes, even though you dropped. I think in paper you’d still make the top 8. And online it should work that way too. If your 4-1 finish puts you in 4th at the end of the swiss then the 5th place guy gets a bye. Of course, in paper if you don’t come back in a few hours to claim your prize then you forfeit that too. But online that’s not a problem.

  6. Because menace is an idiot? No idea why i did that-mental lapse-was thinking to myself f%&$ hope no one see this!
    It was also my limited exp with Oath, I ended up 11th at 4-2 after.
    The misplay lead me to abandon running Oath for the time being and have since went with ug folk and a zoo list in the money.

  7. menace – Sorry about the call out man, didn’t want to make you feel like an idiot – I just wasn’t sure if I was missing something.

    Congrats on the success with Merfolk and Zoo. Haven’t seen Zoo for a long time.

  8. Aww no sweat bud, happy to be in a article, however bad i played.
    The ug folks was a lot more successful, I placed in the money 3 times with it and zoo just once out of 3 tries. The Zoo matchups aside merfolk, fish and pox are really hard earned not much bolts and nacatls can do to a turn 1 oath, bazaar or ad naus.
    Sorry about your finish I just found out about that bug.